as we heard, a senior republican on the judiciary committee, chuck grassley, say we don't know the immigration status of the people who have term rise the communities in massachusetts. when we find out, it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system. this is-- this is-- you know, it has the potential to completely reframe the immigration debate going forward. >> ifill: and it seems to put the president in a precarious position politically, which is to say, it's all uncertain. and if you're in the first half of your second term, what you want is a little bit of certainty because you're never going to be in a stronger position. >> i think when people feel things are so out of control, they are not going to be as likely to make the kind of big bet that you need to make on a sort of major policy change, as, for instance, immigration overhaul would be. >> i think that the problem also is that these various things that you talked about it's rice and i know the other inls dents, all of which are probably unare ununrelated, many of which we probably would not have paid as much attention to we